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From: "Arrano Beltza" Subject: [losttribes] Noah and Race
Satan, always devious, has gained sickening success in perverting the Truth about race and "genetic purity". Several well-intentioned Sabbatarian churches of God and other denominations were misleadingly drilled and persuaded into believing that Noah, Shem, Eber, and their descendants down to Jacob were "white". This needs to be seriously and meekly rethought and corrected. Which race(s) did Adam ('red') and Eve represent? Does it matter? Why is Scripture mostly silent concerning such an issue? Surely because, if revealed, a particular "racial group" would consider itself the "purest", leading to hostility, bigotry, and disdain towards those not of their "kind". If Noah, his wife, and three sons were Caucasian, then who were the pre-Flood ancestors of the "yellows", "reds", "browns", and "blacks"? If HAM was Caucasoid, then WHY DOES HIS NAME IN HEBREW AND ANCIENT EGYPTIAN/COPTIC ('KEM') MEANS 'BLACK', 'HEAT', 'SCORCHED'? Was he named this because of a Negroid wife? NO! Should Afrocentrists take it as proof of "BLACK SUPERIORITY"? A resounding, reverberating NO! NOAH AND HIS WIFE HAD THE GENETIC CAPABILITY OF PRODUCING THE VARIOUS RACES AND PHYSICAL TYPES (PYGMOID, NORDIC, DINARIC, AFRICOID, ALPINE, ETC.) THAT HAVE EXISTED SIDE BY SIDE SINCE THE BEGINNING OF MAN'S/WOMAN'S EXISTENCE! Noah could have been black, white, red-skinned, or "Oriental". Holy Writ does not say and for GOOD REASON. We can all see in our world, which Yahweh Almighty spoke into being, the VARIETIES (COLORS AND APPEARANCES) of cats, horses, fish, insects, dogs, cows, sheep, trees, plants, vegetables, flowers, and whatever else left out, EVIDENCE OF HIS GLORIOUS CREATIVITY AND PREFERENCE AND FONDNESS FOR DIVERSITY. Which race does Yahweh belong to? Only fools would care! Imagine the reaction of "Black Israelites" and White Supremacists when Yahshua Ha-Mashiach, the Conquering Lion of JUDAH, returns to this pitiful planet and they finally see how TYPICALLY JEWISH his features are! What a tremendous and liberating learning experience that will be for these misguided and deluded souls! Ham, a HANDSOME NEGROID with tightly-curled hair and thick lips, had a reddish firstborn, Canaan, yellow grandchildren (Heth, progenitor of the Hittites/Kheta and Japanese/Akita clan/Eta/Siberian Kets, Casluhim/Philistim-Koreans) and passed the genes to engender blacks (Kushites, Nubians, Amorites/West Africans, the Sudanese, Naphtuhim/Melanesians), Capoids (Sinim/Sinites, San Bushmen), pygmies-Anatolian Hatti, Aeta Negritos (Raamah), browns (Malays-Sheba, Polynesians/Berbers-Phut), Caucasians (Yugoslavs-Caphtor, Balts/COURonians-KURs/Lithuanians/Latvians-Lubim/CARians, Merovingians-Nimrod), "Mongoloids" (Samoyeds-Sukiyim, Amerindians-Canaan, Sidon, Mizraim, Hivim), and Australoids (Pathrusim-Theban KILIKes/Patorosi, KALIKisha Sea People, woolly-headed "black Egyptian" COLCHians). Ophir, son of the Hebrew Joktan, had offspring (BANTUS) inhabiting East AFRica/PUNT, his name given to the Dark Continent-Opir/Afar, Apar, Aparica. I could exhaustingly continue on with the racially diverse Shemite and Japhethite nationalities but the point is emphasized well enough. What's intended to be understood when Noah was described as being "perfect" in his generations (Gen. 6: 9)? Some church leaders teach that racial intermixing was what prompted the Great Deluge and that Noah was "set aside" because of his untainted genetic strain ("whiteness"). HOGWASH I say! They need to carefully read Scripture! Angels (sons of God/Elohim) had forbidden sexual intercourse with human daughters of men, propagating the accursed Nefilim/Giants (Gen. 6: 4)! THE DEVIL MENACINGLY ATTEMPTED TO POLLUTE THE ENTIRE GENE POOL OF MANKIND TO PREVENT THE FUTURE BIRTH OF MESSIAH! It was prophesied in the Garden of Eden that He will be of the woman's (Eve's) seed (Gen. 3: 15). Now is it more meaningful to know why it was necessary to list Yahshua's ancestry all the way back to Adam (Luke 3: 23-28)?! Also, this is the purpose behind why David was emboldened to fight against and defeat Goliath, a Giant! What constituted Noah's "perfectness" was both a non-pagan spiritual life that he learned from his pious forefathers and his Adamic bloodline which wasn't corrupted with DNA of the Giant hybrids! Take notice of "UFO aliens" (demons, fallen angels) who reportedly are conducting genetic experiments with female earthlings! Noah's immediate family, including his daughters-in-law, were divinely given the capacity to spread genes that have maintained the preservation of ALL RACES WHICH ARE ALL PURE AND ACCEPTABLE IN YAHWEH'S LOVING EYES! One doesn't need to have graduated from the WCG's Ambassador College to be listened to. HOW SIMPLE AND PLAIN IS THE TRUTH! Worship Yahweh in SPIRIT AND IN TRUTH. Don't follow after men who have faults like we do and tendencies to lord it over themselves (Luke 22: 24-27), overseeing congregations with an iron hand, giving biased and prejudiced interpretations, and laying down fallacy as dogma. Instead, FOLLOW YAHWEH'S WORD. If I offend any of you, then you need to do some intense soul searching and come to the realization that if prophets like John the Immerser, Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Elijah were alive in these times, you'd be offended by them too! ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com This list provided by SANJ sponsors: http://www.nazarene.net SANJ is a non-profit organization
From: "Arrano Beltza" Subject: [losttribes] Response to Ben-Ariel's post.
Welcome to Spacemail - the free email service that's out of this world! From: "Arrano Beltza" Subject: [losttribes] Response to Ben-Ariel's post. Shalom! I agree with David Ben-Ariel on many Biblical points but there are prophetic oversights in the attached E-Mail of his below regarding the Anti-Messiah and duration of his politico-religious career. It must be understood that he'll conclude a pact/covenant/treaty with MANY (nations), including Jews and Arabs, that's to last SEVEN YEARS (Dan. 9: 27; 11: 23). The first 1,260 days will involve the building of a third Temple (north from the Dome of the Rock-Rev. 11: 2; should take one year for completion), ministry of the Two Witnesses (Rev. 11: 3), and setting up of Global Government, a transnational central banking system, and world police force (Rev. 13: 2-4, 7, 8, 16, 17). Once he proclaims his "godhood" and right to a Jerusalemite/Davidic throne, the remaining 42 months of widespread Tribulation begins (for those discerning enough to refuse his authority). Dan. 11: 36-"And the king shall do according to his will; and HE SHALL EXALT HIMSELF, AND MAGNIFY HIMSELF ABOVE EVERY GOD, AND SPEAK MARVELLOUS THINGS AGAINST THE GOD (YAHWEH) OF GODS, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done. Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers (THIS IS A REFERENCE TO YAHWEH AGAIN, INDICATING THAT THE ANT-MESSIAH WILL HAVE JEWISH-DAVIDIC ANCESTRY), nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all." Rev. 13: 5, 6-"And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and POWER WAS GIVEN UNTO HIM (ALLOWED BY YAHWEH) TO CONTINUE FORTY AND TWO MONTHS. AND HE OPENED HIS MOUTH IN BLASPHEMY AGAINST GOD, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven." Anti-Messiah will be given the power to continue influencing Middle Eastern and international affairs for ANOTHER 42 MONTHS. The Book of Revelation elaborates further on what is already covered in Daniel. What this Masonic despot from Europe will do during the 42 months prior to his act of blasphemy (sitting in the Inner Sanctum of the Temple, crowned and anointed priest-king of the "New Israel") is discussed in Dan. 11: 21-35. Remember this instruction in Is. 28: 10, 13-"For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little." Make sure to read other Scriptural passages to get a fuller understanding of prophesy and doctrine. The king of the north will betray the Jews and other Israelites, turning against them with his Muslim allies AFTER the Holy City and Temple Mount are taken. He will partition the Jewish state and its disputed capital between himself and the Arab countries! Joel (chapter 3) mentions Tyre/Zidon (Lebanon, Hezbollah Islamists) and Philistia/Palestine (PLO) as being Anti-Messiah's partners in crime! Rev. 11: 2 reveals that when he defiles the House of Yahweh, Jerusalem and the outer court/southern portion of the Temple Mount will be given to (or temporarily remain in the hands of) the Gentiles (Arab, Turkic, Iranian, and Pakistani Mohameddans)! THEY WON'T BE BACKSTABBED BY THE EUROPEAN BEAST! Dan. 11: 39-"Thus shall he (king of the north/European Union-Eber/House of Israel and Asshur/Germany; Num. 24: 24, Dan. 11: 30) do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and HE SHALL CAUSE THEM (MUSLIMS) TO RULE OVER MANY, AND SHALL DIVIDE THE LAND (JUDAH) FOR GAIN." Joel 3: 1-6-"For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring again the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem, I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and PARTED MY LAND (Jewish State of Israel). And they have cast lots for my people; and have given a boy for an harlot, and sold a girl for wine, that they might drink. Yea, and what have ye to do with me, O TYRE, and ZIDON, and all the COASTS OF PALESTINE? will ye render me a recompence? and if ye recompence me, swiftly and speedily will I return your recompence upon your own head; Because ye have taken my silver and my gold, and have carried into your temples my goodly pleasant things: The children also of Judah and the children of Jerusalem have ye sold unto the Grecians, that ye might remove them far from their border." Even the Edomite Muslim Turks of Turkey and Central Asia (related to the Kyzyl tribe, 'reds'), Ammon/Bulgaria and Moab/Mongolian Kalmucks (Dan. 11: 41) included, will be participants in the hellish deportation and enslavement of Jacob! Obad. 1: 10-14-"For thy violence against thy brother Jacob shame shall cover thee, and thou (Edom) shalt be cut off for ever. In the day that THOU STOODEST ON THE OTHER SIDE, IN THE DAY THAT THE STRANGERS CARRIED AWAY CAPTIVE HIS FORCES, AND FOREIGNERS ENTERED INTO HIS (JUDAH'S) GATES, AND CAST LOTS UPON JERUSALEM, EVEN THOU WAST AS ONE OF THEM. But thou shouldest not have looked on the day of thy brother in the day that he became a stranger; neither shouldest thou have rejoiced over the children of Judah in the day of their destruction; neither shouldest thou have spoken proudly in the day of distress. Thou shouldest not have entered into the gate of my people in the day of their calamity; yea, thou shouldest not have looked on their affliction in the day of their calamity, nor have laid hands on their substance in the day of their calamity; NEITHER SHOULDEST THOU HAVE STOOD IN THE CROSSWAY, TO CUT OFF THOSE OF HIS THAT DID ESCAPE; NEITHER SHOULDEST THOU HAVE DELIVERED UP THOSE OF HIS THAT DID REMAIN IN THE DAY OF DISTRESS (JACOB'S TROUBLE)." ONLY TURKEY STANDS IN THE "CROSSWAY/CROSSROAD" (VERSE 14), WHICH IS ANATOLIA/ASIA MINOR (CILICIAN GAP, DARDANELLES, AND BOSPHORUS), THE LANDBRIDGE CONNECTING THE TWO CONTINENTS OF EUROPE AND ASIA. EDOM ISN'T RUSSIA OR GERMANY! >From: David Ben-Ariel >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], >EUROPEAN INTRIGUE FOR PALESTINIAN STATE?
From: "Arrano Beltza" Subject: [losttribes] Giants-Book of Enoch and the Bible
Shalom, brethren. It is always important to continue searching for lost truths. Stopping from doing so, possibly resulting in "stagnation" with old beliefs or opinions, and remaining content with what has been learned from others and personal studies without questioning it can be very detrimental to one's spiritual and intellectual evolution. Arguments differ concerning the subject on the "mysterious" Nefilim/Giants and their superbly advanced civilizations. There are those who insist that angels did not father them, quoting Matthew 22: 30 and Mark 12: 25. The entire meaning of the verses is being missed. The Book of Enoch, which was widely read before and during the 1st century CE/AD, harmonizes with what is told in the Old and New Testaments. It gives an insightful explanation of why certain MALE angels, who weren't created for marriage and procreation, desired to be like mortal men and have wives. What is to follow will be matching quotes in Ethiopic Enoch and the Holy Bible and discussion of the Giants who once affected the religious and technological developments of past post-Flood kingdoms. Enoch 15: 1-7-"Then addressing me, He (Yahweh) spoke and said: Hear, neither be afraid, O Enoch, O righteous man, and scribe of righteousness: approach hither, and hear My voice. Go, say to the Watchers of heaven (sons of God), who have sent thee to pray for them; You ought to pray for men, and not men for you. WHEREFORE HAVE YOU FORSAKEN THE LOFTY AND HOLY HEAVEN, which endures for ever, AND HAVE LAIN WITH WOMEN; HAVE DEFILED YOURSELVES WITH THE DAUGHTERS OF MEN; HAVE TAKEN TO YOURSELVES WIVES; HAVE ACTED LIKE THE SONS OF THE EARTH, AND HAVE BEGOTTEN GIANTS (Gen. 6: 2, 4)? YOU BEING SPIRITUAL, HOLY, AND LIVING A LIFE WHICH IS ETERNAL, HAVE POLLUTED YOURSELVES WITH WOMEN; HAVE BEGOTTEN IN CARNAL BLOOD; HAVE LUSTED IN THE BLOOD OF MEN; AND HAVE DONE AS THOSE WHO ARE FLESH AND BLOOD DO. These however die and perish. THEREFORE HAVE I (YAHWEH) GIVEN TO THEM (HEAVENLY WATCHERS-GUARDIANS) WIVES, THAT THEY MIGHT COHABIT WITH THEM; THAT SONS MIGHT BE BORN OF THEM, AND THAT THIS MIGHT BE TRANSACTED UPON EARTH. But you from the beginning were made spiritual, living a life which is eternal, and not subject to death in all the generations of the world. Therefore I made not wives for you, because being spiritual, your dwelling is in heaven (Matt. 22: 30, Mark 12: 25)." Enoch 16: 2-4-"And now to the Watchers, who have sent thee to pray for them, who in the beginning were in heaven, say: In heaven have been; secret things however have not been manifested to you; yet you have known a reprobated mystery. And this (forbidden secret/knowledge that humanity isn't yet spiritually qualified for to know and understand) you have related to women in the hardness of your heart, and by that mystery have women and mankind multiplied evils upon the earth (Jude 4, 6, 13)." Enoch 39: 1-"In those days shall the elect and holy race descend from the upper heavens (Rev. 22: 14) and their seed shall then be with the sons of men." Enoch 2-"Behold, he comes with ten thousands of his saints, to execute judgment upon them, and destroy the wicked, and reprove all of flesh for every thing which the sinful and ungodly have done, and committed against him." Jude 14, 15-"And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him." NOTICE THAT YAHSHUA'S BROTHER JUDE/YEHUDA QUOTED FROM THE MUCH OLDER BOOK OF ENOCH! THE ANGELS IDENTIFIED AS WATCHERS FORNICATED LIKE THE INHABITERS OF SODOM AND GOMORRAH (JUDE, VERSES 6, 7). THEY WERE IMPRISONED IN THE DARKEST DEPTHS OF SHEOL/TARTARUS (CENTER OF EARTH) FOR THEIR TRANSGRESSION. The Watchers were initially permitted to intermingle with mankind for the purpose of assisting with lagging science, medicine, and other civilizing advancements. The divine mission was undermined when the comeliness of women induced them to seek wives and sire children like fleshly mortals. We read of them in the Epistle of Jude, verses 6-8: "And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, He (Yahweh) hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them, in like manner giving themselves over to fornication (sexual activity), and going after strange (human) flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh (of mortal women), despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities." 2 Peter 2: 4 is also in agreement with the Book of Enoch: "...Yahweh spared not the angels that sinned (fornicated), but cast them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment..." 1 Peter 3: 19-20 mentions the visit Yahshua paid them when he descended into Tartarus (Sheol) after his death on the tree to announce victory over Satan and his doomed minions: "...He (Yahshua) went and preached unto the spirits (Watchers) in prison, which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water." Later in history, Greek inductees of the Mysteries partook in chthonic religious practices having to do with the Underworld and the deities that lurked therein. Sacred altars were erected within underground chambers in commemoration to these angels. In the aftermath of the fratricidal wars between the Nefilim, the Watchers were imprisoned in the darkest depths of Sheol as punishment for their carnal pursuits. The Book of Enoch describes their subterranean abode as being terrible. Greek myths relate the event in which Zeus condemned the Titans to languish in Tartarus. Dr. Otto von Habsburg, Austrian Archduke, wrote of the persistence of these beliefs among European middle classes in the Holy Roman Empire in the book, "Charles V": "It was natural that a miner should consider himself a member of an elite, as indeed he was regarded by most people. His status, it seems, derived from some ancient pagan memories, when it was believed that the miner descended to the bowels of the earth to commune with the invisible forces who ruled there. Officially, no Christian could believe in such myths, but nevertheless, in the imagination of the people, these myths were very real, and were perpetuated in legend and oral traditions." According to the Book of Jubilees and Little Genesis X, a tenth part of the Watchers was allowed to remain upon the earth. This can explain the phenomena of UFOs and extraterrestrial activities involving abductions and genetic, sexual "experiments". Apparently, these Watchers are submitting themselves once again to those same acts of sensuality, brazenly making preparations for the return of the Nefilim. Yahshua had asked if the future world at his Second Coming will be like the one of Noah's days before the Flood (Luke 17: 26). That patriarch painfully witnessed the perversion of the angels, their defilement with women, and the birth of Nefilim. As additional corroboration of this historical occurrence, the lustful gods of Sumer, Canaan, Greece, and Rome were known in myths to have mated with earthwomen. In the Book of Enoch, chapter 10, verses 13-14, can be read: "To Gabriel also Yahweh said, 'Go to the biters (bastards), to the reprobates, to the children of fornication; and destroy the children of fornication, the offspring of the Watchers, from among men; bring them forth, and excite them one against another. Let them perish by mutual slaughter; for length of days shall not be theirs. They shall all entreat thee, but their fathers shall not obtain their wishes respecting them; for they shall hope for eternal life, and that they may live, each of them, five hundred years.' " Thousands of years past, the Great Flood was unleashed on the earth to rid humanity of the over-populous Giants. Since the Almighty swore to never again destroy all life in this same manner, placing the rainbow in the heavens as His sign of assurance to Noah's unassimilated children, the Nefilim were divinely induced to kill one another over territorial disputes and the acquisition of gold and much-needed minerals. The Watchers helplessly caught sight of the carnage before a ninth part of them were imprisoned within Sheol. The Lord ordered the Archangel Michael to "go and announce his crime to Samyaza, and to the others who are with him, who have been associated with women, that they might be polluted with all their impurity. And when all their sons shall be slain, when they shall see the perdition of their beloved, bind them for seventy generations underneath the earth, even to the day of judgment, and of consummation until the judgment, the effect of which will last for ever be completed. Then shall they be taken away into the lowest depths of the fire in torments; and in confinement shall they be shut up forever." This is again written in Jubilees 5: 6-10, telling of how Yahweh's sword was sent into the entire ranks of Giants so that all would slay his neighbor. By way of legends, the Greeks and Scandinavians historicized the downfall of the insolent Titans and children of Loki, who, because of their abuses and disregard for the living, were vengefully described to be hideous, disfigured freaks. Fomorians, Cyclopes, and Hephaestus/Vulcan were also known for their deformities. Jotunheim, the Norse Middle Earth, belonged to Loki's evil family, Giants, and other monsters. The world will come to its end with Ragnarok (Twilight of the Gods) according to the Edda, when, at last, Jotunheim's sojourners subdue the Vanir and Aesir. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com This list provided by SANJ sponsors: http://www.nazarene.net SANJ is a non-profit organization
From: "Arrano Beltza" Subject: [losttribes] Fwd: [Origin] Nations of Giants
I can understand why at first a discussion on angels wouldn't be allowed on this Origin forum. If it's true (I believe it is personally) that angelic sons of God/'bene Elohim' (not sons of men) fathered Giants/Nefilim with daughters of men, then what we have in our hands here is a baffling, controversial origin for the NATIONS of Giants-Anakim, Rephaim, Zamzummim, Emim, Zuzim, etc. The Anakim lived in Amorite territory (listed as Iyanaq in the Egyptian Execration Texts, their presence also reported in North Africa), an indication that they were descended from a sinful angel and an Africoid/black Amoritish woman. This would explain why the Amorite West Africans and the Negroid-Anakite Olmec Giants of ancient Mexico had identical racial features-broad noses, full lips, round eyes, ebony skin. Zecharia Sitchin in his "Lost Realms" mentioned these facts. Canaanite-Ugaritic "myths" call the sons of Rapha (Rephaim) 'Kadmonites' ('easterners' from Nimrodite Sumer, the Lugals or 'Mighty Ones'). They were Nordic in appearance as were some of their counterparts ruling in Ham/Kemy/Egypt/Mizraim (for example, red-headed Set and blue-eyed, blond Horus). To say that angels are sexless is incorrect because we can read in Gen. 18: 1, 2, 16, 22; 19: 1, 5, 8, 10-12, 15 that they were described as MEN. They weren't called ITS, which is what they would be if they are of no specific gender. Sons of God (angels) were not just mentioned in Gen. 6: 2, 4 but also in Job 1: 6; 2: 1 and obviously aren't Adamite men since they're said to be in the heavenly abode of Yahweh. Sons of God had no earthly human father, created as spirit beings by Yahweh, and can materialize and take our fleshly forms. Adam was the "son of God" because he also was without human parents (Luke 3: 38). 2 Peter 2: 4; 3: 19-20 and Jude repeat what's written about the angels, daughters of men, and Giants in the "non-canonical" Enoch! This book existed in the days of Yahshua (predated the New Testament) and was copied from in the Essenic Dead Sea Scrolls. It was accepted by Jude/Judas, MESSIAH'S OWN BROTHER, that angels did mate with females and sired superhuman offspring. If you disagree, then please explain how and why GIANTS existed! The Egyptian god Horus, a Giant, grew to a height of eight cubits (nearly 14 feet). King Og of Bashan, a remnant of the Rephaim, had a bedstead which measured nine cubits in length and its breadth thereof was four cubits (Deut. 3: 11), the same measurements of the tomb of Marduk/Merodach in Babylon (13 feet long and 6 feet wide). Goliath, the champion of the Philistines, attained a stature of six cubits and a span. They were not like the average terrestrials and the reason why is already clearly provided in Scripture! ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com This list provided by SANJ sponsors: http://www.nazarene.net SANJ is a non-profit organization
From: "Arrano Beltza" Subject: [losttribes] Descent into Slavery, Part 1
It is just a brief matter of time before the Middle East explodes into a contrived holy war/Jihad and Joseph-Manassite America is torn apart inwardly through Islamic terrorist activity and induced racial conflicts. Arab sheiks withdrawing their money from major U.S. banks, their cutting off of oil supplies in retaliation to U.S. (feigned) support for Israel, and the resultant economic collapse will drastically diminish Anglo-Saxon hegemony. I have yet to explain what the Habsburgs and Stewarts, MEMBERS OF THE BRITISH-ISRAEL MOVEMENT FAMILIAR WITH THE SANJ LOST TRIBES FORUM, have in mind for the Ten Tribes-FORCED MASS DEPORTATIONS OF OUR PEOPLES TO THE MUSLIM MIDDLE EAST WITH THE HELP OF UNITED NATIONS "PEACE-KEEPING" TROOPS TO PREMATURELY FULFILL THE PROPHECIES OF THE REGATHERING OF ISRAEL AND JUDAH. THOSE WHO REJECT THEIR MESSIAHSHIP WILL BE PUT INTO BACK-BREAKING SLAVERY. Isaiah 14: 1-7-"For Yahweh will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob. And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of Yahweh for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors. And it shall come to pass in the day that Yahweh SHALL GIVE THEE REST from thy sorrow, and from thy fear, and FROM THE HARD BONDAGE WHEREIN THOU WAST MADE TO SERVE, That thou shalt take up this proverb against the KING OF BABYLON (KING OF THE NORTH, ANTI-MESSIAH), and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased! Yahweh hath broken the staff of the wicked, and the sceptre of the rulers. He who smote the people in wrath with a continual stroke, he that ruled the nations in anger (Dan. 11: 44), is persecuted, and none hindereth. The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing." Austrian Archdukes Otto and Karl want to give Jews and Israelites the impression that they are going to bring to pass what was promised and prophesied to Abram/Abraham in Gen. 15: 18-"In the same day Yahweh made a covenant with Abram, saying, UNTO THY SEED HAVE I GIVEN THIS LAND, FROM THE RIVER OF EGYPT UNTO THE GREAT RIVER, THE RIVER EUPHRATES." What'll instead transpire is that the houses of Israel and Judah will be scattered throughout the lands of enemies in Egypt, Syro-Palestine, Kushite Ethiopia, Shinar/Iraq-Kuwait, and Elam/Iranian Khuzestan. Isaiah 11: 11-"And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to RECOVER THE REMNANT OF HIS PEOPLE, which shall be left, from ASSYRIA, and from EGYPT, and from PATHROS (Upper Egypt), and from KUSH, and from ELAM, and from SHINAR, and from HAMATH (Syria), and from the islands of the sea (Mediterranean)." There is a conspiracy, a well-hidden one (Dan. 8: 23; 11: 21-24). It should be no shock why George Bush, a Scottish Rite Freemason/Yale Bonesman, and Demolay Knight William J. Clinton (distant kinsmen according to "Burke's Peerage") have allowed foreign American-hating U.N. troops to train on our soil along with the Assyro-German Luftwaffe! The imperial dynasty of Habsburg-Lorraine has mixed blood-DAVIDIC from the Septimanian princedom/Desposyni and FATIMID. Since the days of Jerusalem's Templar-Frankish occupation, the Masonic Priory of Zion, Dukes of Lorraine, and their families have kept amicable ties with Sufi mystics, Kabbalists (like the famous rabbi Rashi), and Shiite Assassins (lead by the Aga Khan, relative of the Windsors, Stewarts, and Habsburgs). Because of his maternal Parma ancestors, Archduke Otto claims a lineage via the Spanish kings and Moorish caliphs of Toledo, Cordoba, and Seville to Fatima, daughter of the "prophet" Mohammed. AND WHAT DO THE MUSLIMS, ESPECIALLY THE IRANIAN SHI'AH, EXPECT THEIR "MESSIAH", THE IMAM MAHDI (A FATIMID), TO FULFILL? http://www.britannica.com/bcom/eb/article/9/0,5716,117209+12+109403,00.html-"Islam is not a messianic religion and has no room for a saviour-messiah. Nevertheless, there gradually developed-probably under Christian influence-the notion of an eschatological restorer of the faith, identified as A DESCENDANT OF THE PROPHET or as the returning 'Isa (i.e., Jesus). He is usually referred to as the mahdi; i.e., the "[divinely] guided one". After the appearance of 'Isa, the last judgment will begin: the good will enter paradise; the evil will fall into hell." http://www.britannica.com/bcom/eb/article/3/0,5716,51333+1+50117,00.html-"Imam Mahdi (Arabic: "divinely guided one"): IN ISLAMIC ESCHATOLOGY, A MESSIANIC DELIVERER WHO WILL fill the Earth with justice and equity, restore true religion, and USHER IN A SHORT GOLDEN AGE LASTING SEVEN, eight, or nine years before the end of the world." Dan. 9: 27-"AND HE (ANTI-MESSIAH/IMAM MAHDI) SHALL CONFIRM THE COVENANT (IS. 28: 15, 18) WITH MANY (UNDER U.N. AUSPICES) FOR ONE WEEK (7 PROPHETIC YEARS): and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate." Look closely at Otto von Habsburg's Pan Europa flag (12 stars) and the Jewish hexagram (both attached to this E-Mail). They're representative of Twelve-Tribed Israel, which foreshadow what is to take place in the time of Jacob's trouble! As I explained beforehand, the Anti-Messiah will be a traitor to the State of Israel, Western Europe, and North America, all whom he'll unite together tyrannically. His allegiance with the Muslim infidels, Turkic, Arab, and Iranian, who will view him as the expected Imam Mahdi, is to be used to his advantage in the battle against Hindu-Buddhist South Asia (Kittim, king of the south). The Priory of Zion, Habsburg supporters, reject the death of Yahshua, agreeing with the Gnostics and Koran that he lived on after a substitute (Simon of Cyrene) was crucified in his place! Though stated that they are a part of Christianity, 33rd Degree Freemasonry and the Shriners blatantly utilize Islamic symbolisms (fez, scimitar, and crescent moon). ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com This list provided by SANJ sponsors: http://www.nazarene.net SANJ is a non-profit organization
It is just a brief matter of time before the Middle East explodes into a contrived holy war/Jihad and Joseph-Manassite America is torn apart inwardly through Islamic terrorist activity and induced racial conflicts. Arab sheiks withdrawing their money from major U.S. banks, their cutting off of oil supplies in retaliation to U.S. (feigned) support for Israel, and the resultant economic collapse will drastically diminish Anglo-Saxon hegemony. I have yet to explain what the Habsburgs and Stewarts, MEMBERS OF THE BRITISH-ISRAEL MOVEMENT FAMILIAR WITH THE SANJ LOST TRIBES FORUM, have in mind for the Ten Tribes-FORCED MASS DEPORTATIONS OF OUR PEOPLES TO THE MUSLIM MIDDLE EAST WITH THE HELP OF UNITED NATIONS "PEACE-KEEPING" TROOPS TO PREMATURELY FULFILL THE PROPHECIES OF THE REGATHERING OF ISRAEL AND JUDAH. THOSE WHO REJECT THEIR MESSIAHSHIP WILL BE PUT INTO BACK-BREAKING SLAVERY. Isaiah 14: 1-7-"For Yahweh will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob. And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of Yahweh for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors. And it shall come to pass in the day that Yahweh SHALL GIVE THEE REST from thy sorrow, and from thy fear, and FROM THE HARD BONDAGE WHEREIN THOU WAST MADE TO SERVE, That thou shalt take up this proverb against the KING OF BABYLON (KING OF THE NORTH, ANTI-MESSIAH), and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased! Yahweh hath broken the staff of the wicked, and the sceptre of the rulers. He who smote the people in wrath with a continual stroke, he that ruled the nations in anger (Dan. 11: 44), is persecuted, and none hindereth. The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing." Austrian Archdukes Otto and Karl want to give Jews and Israelites the impression that they are going to bring to pass what was promised and prophesied to Abram/Abraham in Gen. 15: 18-"In the same day Yahweh made a covenant with Abram, saying, UNTO THY SEED HAVE I GIVEN THIS LAND, FROM THE RIVER OF EGYPT UNTO THE GREAT RIVER, THE RIVER EUPHRATES." What'll instead transpire is that the houses of Israel and Judah will be scattered throughout the lands of enemies in Egypt, Syro-Palestine, Kushite Ethiopia, Shinar/Iraq-Kuwait, and Elam/Iranian Khuzestan. Isaiah 11: 11-"And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to RECOVER THE REMNANT OF HIS PEOPLE, which shall be left, from ASSYRIA, and from EGYPT, and from PATHROS (Upper Egypt), and from KUSH, and from ELAM, and from SHINAR, and from HAMATH (Syria), and from the islands of the sea (Mediterranean)." There is a conspiracy, a well-hidden one (Dan. 8: 23; 11: 21-24). It should be no shock why George Bush, a Scottish Rite Freemason/Yale Bonesman, and Demolay Knight William J. Clinton (distant kinsmen according to "Burke's Peerage") have allowed foreign American-hating U.N. troops to train on our soil along with the Assyro-German Luftwaffe! The imperial dynasty of Habsburg-Lorraine has mixed blood-DAVIDIC from the Septimanian princedom/Desposyni and FATIMID. Since the days of Jerusalem's Templar-Frankish occupation, the Masonic Priory of Zion, Dukes of Lorraine, and their families have kept amicable ties with Sufi mystics, Kabbalists (like the famous rabbi Rashi), and Shiite Assassins (lead by the Aga Khan, relative of the Windsors, Stewarts, and Habsburgs). Because of his maternal Parma ancestors, Archduke Otto claims a lineage via the Spanish kings and Moorish caliphs of Toledo, Cordoba, and Seville to Fatima, daughter of the "prophet" Mohammed. AND WHAT DO THE MUSLIMS, ESPECIALLY THE IRANIAN SHI'AH, EXPECT THEIR "MESSIAH", THE IMAM MAHDI (A FATIMID), TO FULFILL? http://www.britannica.com/bcom/eb/article/9/0,5716,117209+12+109403,00.html-"Islam is not a messianic religion and has no room for a saviour-messiah. Nevertheless, there gradually developed-probably under Christian influence-the notion of an eschatological restorer of the faith, identified as A DESCENDANT OF THE PROPHET or as the returning 'Isa (i.e., Jesus). He is usually referred to as the mahdi; i.e., the "[divinely] guided one". After the appearance of 'Isa, the last judgment will begin: the good will enter paradise; the evil will fall into hell." http://www.britannica.com/bcom/eb/article/3/0,5716,51333+1+50117,00.html-"Imam Mahdi (Arabic: "divinely guided one"): IN ISLAMIC ESCHATOLOGY, A MESSIANIC DELIVERER WHO WILL fill the Earth with justice and equity, restore true religion, and USHER IN A SHORT GOLDEN AGE LASTING SEVEN, eight, or nine years before the end of the world." Dan. 9: 27-"AND HE (ANTI-MESSIAH/IMAM MAHDI) SHALL CONFIRM THE COVENANT (IS. 28: 15, 18) WITH MANY (UNDER U.N. AUSPICES) FOR ONE WEEK (7 PROPHETIC YEARS): and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate." Look closely at Otto von Habsburg's Pan Europa flag (12 stars) and the Jewish hexagram (both attached to this E-Mail). They're representative of Twelve-Tribed Israel, which foreshadow what is to take place in the time of Jacob's trouble! As I explained beforehand, the Anti-Messiah will be a traitor to the State of Israel, Western Europe, and North America, all whom he'll unite together tyrannically. His allegiance with the Muslim infidels, Turkic, Arab, and Iranian, who will view him as the expected Imam Mahdi, is to be used to his advantage in the battle against Hindu-Buddhist South Asia (Kittim, king of the south). The Priory of Zion, Habsburg supporters, reject the death of Yahshua, agreeing with the Gnostics and Koran that he lived on after a substitute (Simon of Cyrene) was crucified in his place! Though stated that they are a part of Christianity, 33rd Degree Freemasonry and the Shriners blatantly utilize Islamic symbolisms (fez, scimitar, and crescent moon). ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com This list provided by SANJ sponsors: http://www.nazarene.net SANJ is a non-profit organization
From: "Arrano Beltza" Subject: [losttribes] Resending attachments: Descent into Slavery, Part 1
It is just a brief matter of time before the Middle East explodes into a contrived holy war/Jihad and Joseph-Manassite America is torn apart inwardly through Islamic terrorist activity and induced racial conflicts. Arab sheiks withdrawing their money from major U.S. banks, their cutting off of oil supplies in retaliation to U.S. (feigned) support for Israel, and the resultant economic collapse will drastically diminish Anglo-Saxon hegemony. I have yet to explain what the Habsburgs and Stewarts, MEMBERS OF THE BRITISH-ISRAEL MOVEMENT FAMILIAR WITH THE SANJ LOST TRIBES FORUM, have in mind for the Ten Tribes-FORCED MASS DEPORTATIONS OF OUR PEOPLES TO THE MUSLIM MIDDLE EAST WITH THE HELP OF UNITED NATIONS "PEACE-KEEPING" TROOPS TO PREMATURELY FULFILL THE PROPHECIES OF THE REGATHERING OF ISRAEL AND JUDAH. THOSE WHO REJECT THEIR MESSIAHSHIP WILL BE PUT INTO BACK-BREAKING SLAVERY. Isaiah 14: 1-7-"For Yahweh will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob. And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of Yahweh for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors. And it shall come to pass in the day that Yahweh SHALL GIVE THEE REST from thy sorrow, and from thy fear, and FROM THE HARD BONDAGE WHEREIN THOU WAST MADE TO SERVE, That thou shalt take up this proverb against the KING OF BABYLON (KING OF THE NORTH, ANTI-MESSIAH), and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased! Yahweh hath broken the staff of the wicked, and the sceptre of the rulers. He who smote the people in wrath with a continual stroke, he that ruled the nations in anger (Dan. 11: 44), is persecuted, and none hindereth. The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing." Austrian Archdukes Otto and Karl want to give Jews and Israelites the impression that they are going to bring to pass what was promised and prophesied to Abram/Abraham in Gen. 15: 18-"In the same day Yahweh made a covenant with Abram, saying, UNTO THY SEED HAVE I GIVEN THIS LAND, FROM THE RIVER OF EGYPT UNTO THE GREAT RIVER, THE RIVER EUPHRATES." What'll instead transpire is that the houses of Israel and Judah will be scattered throughout the lands of enemies in Egypt, Syro-Palestine, Kushite Ethiopia, Shinar/Iraq-Kuwait, and Elam/Iranian Khuzestan. Isaiah 11: 11-"And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to RECOVER THE REMNANT OF HIS PEOPLE, which shall be left, from ASSYRIA, and from EGYPT, and from PATHROS (Upper Egypt), and from KUSH, and from ELAM, and from SHINAR, and from HAMATH (Syria), and from the islands of the sea (Mediterranean)." There is a conspiracy, a well-hidden one (Dan. 8: 23; 11: 21-24). It should be no shock why George Bush, a Scottish Rite Freemason/Yale Bonesman, and Demolay Knight William J. Clinton (distant kinsmen according to "Burke's Peerage") have allowed foreign American-hating U.N. troops to train on our soil along with the Assyro-German Luftwaffe! The imperial dynasty of Habsburg-Lorraine has mixed blood-DAVIDIC from the Septimanian princedom/Desposyni and FATIMID. Since the days of Jerusalem's Templar-Frankish occupation, the Masonic Priory of Zion, Dukes of Lorraine, and their families have kept amicable ties with Sufi mystics, Kabbalists (like the famous rabbi Rashi), and Shiite Assassins (lead by the Aga Khan, relative of the Windsors, Stewarts, and Habsburgs). Because of his maternal Parma ancestors, Archduke Otto claims a lineage via the Spanish kings and Moorish caliphs of Toledo, Cordoba, and Seville to Fatima, daughter of the "prophet" Mohammed. AND WHAT DO THE MUSLIMS, ESPECIALLY THE IRANIAN SHI'AH, EXPECT THEIR "MESSIAH", THE IMAM MAHDI (A FATIMID), TO FULFILL? http://www.britannica.com/bcom/eb/article/9/0,5716,117209+12+109403,00.html-"Islam is not a messianic religion and has no room for a saviour-messiah. Nevertheless, there gradually developed-probably under Christian influence-the notion of an eschatological restorer of the faith, identified as A DESCENDANT OF THE PROPHET or as the returning 'Isa (i.e., Jesus). He is usually referred to as the mahdi; i.e., the "[divinely] guided one". After the appearance of 'Isa, the last judgment will begin: the good will enter paradise; the evil will fall into hell." http://www.britannica.com/bcom/eb/article/3/0,5716,51333+1+50117,00.html-"Imam Mahdi (Arabic: "divinely guided one"): IN ISLAMIC ESCHATOLOGY, A MESSIANIC DELIVERER WHO WILL fill the Earth with justice and equity, restore true religion, and USHER IN A SHORT GOLDEN AGE LASTING SEVEN, eight, or nine years before the end of the world." Dan. 9: 27-"AND HE (ANTI-MESSIAH/IMAM MAHDI) SHALL CONFIRM THE COVENANT (IS. 28: 15, 18) WITH MANY (UNDER U.N. AUSPICES) FOR ONE WEEK (7 PROPHETIC YEARS): and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate." Look closely at Otto von Habsburg's Pan Europa flag (12 stars) and the Jewish hexagram (both attached to this E-Mail). They're representative of Twelve-Tribed Israel, which foreshadow what is to take place in the time of Jacob's trouble! As I explained beforehand, the Anti-Messiah will be a traitor to the State of Israel, Western Europe, and North America, all whom he'll unite together tyrannically. His allegiance with the Muslim infidels, Turkic, Arab, and Iranian, who will view him as the expected Imam Mahdi, is to be used to his advantage in the battle against Hindu-Buddhist South Asia (Kittim, king of the south). The Priory of Zion, Habsburg supporters, reject the death of Yahshua, agreeing with the Gnostics and Koran that he lived on after a substitute (Simon of Cyrene) was crucified in his place! Though stated that they are a part of Christianity, 33rd Degree Freemasonry and the Shriners blatantly utilize Islamic symbolisms (fez, scimitar, and crescent moon). ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------=_NextPart_000_7a1cfe6d_556bc7b$16c4af44-- This list provided by SANJ sponsors: http://www.nazarene.net SANJ is a non-profit organization
From: "Arrano Beltza" Subject: [losttribes] Judah Enchained
A clarification is provided below on what will soon take place with Jerusalem, a third Temple, and State of Israel. At the very bottom is an attachment showing how the Temple Mount will look like during the Habsburg-Muslim New Order in the Middle East. One must recall that Hitler's "Catholic" regime had a friendship with the Palestinian-Jerusalemite Grand Mufti, Haj Ahmin Mohammed El-Husseini, who was a relative of PLO leaders Yasser Arafat and Faisal Husseini. Titular kings of Jerusalem Archduke Otto von Habsburg (Pan Europa, Bavarian Christian Social Union) and Spain's Juan Carlos are members of the Knights of Malta (their Grand Master is Andrew Bertie of Stewart blood; a subordinate of his is ex-President George Bush), Opus Dei (Vatican "Fascist" Far-Rightwingers), Bilderberg Group (began with Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands, once a Nazi SS officer, http://www.bilderberg.org/bernhard.htm). Habsburg, influential German EU Parliamentarian, has been a vocal adherent of the "land for peace" solution that will prepare the Israelis and Arabs for Euro-German/U.N. intervention. An America in decline will be too embroiled with domestic instability to be of any further importance. See http://www.mosquitonet.com/~prewett/caqsmom25.1.html for additional information on the following: "The Sovereign Military and Hospitaler Order of St. John of Jerusalem of Rhodes and of Malta, known also as the Sovereign Military Order of Malta, or SMOM, is juridically, politically, and historically unique in the world today. Representing initially the most powerful and reactionary segments of the European aristocracy, for nearly a thousand years beginning with the early crusades of the Twelfth Century, it has organized, funded, and led military operations against states and ideas deemed threatening to its power. It is probably safe to say that the several thousand Knights of SMOM, principally in Europe, North, Central, and South America, comprise the largest most consistently powerful and reactionary membership of any organization in the world today. Although an exclusively [Roman] Catholic organization, in this century it has collaborated with, and given high awards to non-Catholic extremists in its current crusade against progressive forces in the West, the national liberation movements, and the socialist countries. To be a Knight, one must not only be from wealthy, aristocratic lineage, one must also have a psychological worldview which is attracted to the "crusader mentality" of these "warrior monks". Participating in SMOM, including its initiation ceremonies and feudal ritual dress, members embrace a certain caste/class mentality; they are sociologically and psychologically predisposed to function as the "shock troops" of Catholic reaction. The Catholic Right and the Knights of Malta, in particular Baron Franz von Papen, played a critical role in Hitler's assumption of power and the launching of the Third Reich's Twentieth Century Crusade. SMOM's influence in Germany survived World War II intact. On November 17, 1948 SMOM awarded one of its highest honors, the Grand Cross of Merit, to Reinhard Gehlen, the Nazi chief of intelligence on the Soviet front. He was subsequently installed by the Americans as the first chief of West Germany's equivalent of the CIA, the Bundesnachtrichtdienst (BND: federal secret service), under West German Chancellor Adenauer, a devout Catholic who had received the Magistral Grand Cross personally from SMOM Grand Master Prince Chigi. After the appointment of Knight of Malta William Casey as head of the Central Intelligence Agency, and another Knight, James Buckley, as head of U.S. propaganda against Eastern Europe at Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, several historians noted with interest President Reagan's call during the summer of 1982 for a "crusade" against the "Evil Empire" in Eastern Europe. In addition to Casey, and James Buckley, its current members, or Knights, after the feudal fashion, include Lee Iacocca, John McCone, William Buckley, Alexander Haig, Alexandre de Marenches (the chief of French Intelligence under Giscard d'Estaing, himself a Knight of SMOM), Otto von Hapsburg, and various leaders of the Fascist P-2 Masonic lodge in Italy. While its organizational funding is relatively modest, its leverage is maximized by the presence of its Knights in key positions in other private and governmental structures throughout the world." Dan 11: 31-39-"For the ships of Chittim (South Asia/India) shall come against him (European king of the north-Assyrian Germany and West European Hebrews/Israelites; Num. 24: 24): therefore he shall be grieved, and return, and have indignation against the holy covenant: so shall he do; he shall even return, and have intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant. And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate (IN DAN. 9: 27, THIS BREAKING OF THE "PACT" BETWEEN THE "MANY"/UNITED NATIONS AND JUDAH AND SETTING UP OF THE ABOMINATION OCCURS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MESSIANIC IMPOSTER'S 7-YEAR RULE, THE "MIDST OF THE WEEK" AT THE END OF THE INITIAL 42 MONTHS; TWO WITNESSES ARE MURDERED-REV. 11: 7; POPE IS VICIOUSLY REMOVED FROM THE "THRONE OF ST. PETER"-REV. 17: 16; ANTI-MESSIAH DECLARES HIMSELF TO BE EMPEROR, POPE, AND KING OF JERUSALEM; START OF TRIBULATION). And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits. And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days. Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries. And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed. And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done. Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all (SAME EVENT IS PROPHESIED IN REV. 13: 5, 6; ANTI-MESSIAH WILL PROCEED TO MIGHTILY DESTROY THE SAINTS AND HIS OPPOSITION DURING THE LAST 42 MONTHS/THREE AND A HALF YEARS ACCORDING TO ST. JOHN; BOTH BOOKS-DANIEL AND REVELATION-ARE IN AGREEMENT, NEW TESTAMENT ONE PROVIDES ADDITIONAL INSIGHT). But in his estate shall he honour the god of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things. Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain (ISRAELI STATE AND ITS CAPITAL IS TO BE DIVIDED UP AMONGST THE GENTILE MUSLIMS AND THE MEROVINGIAN PRIEST-KING-JOEL 3: 2; TEMPLE MOUNT IS SHARED JOINTLY BY THEM-REV. 11: 2; ISLAM RETAINS POSSESSION OF THE SOUTHERN AREA/OUTER COURT WHILE THE PSEUDO-MESSIAH/IMAM MAHDI STAYS ENTHRONED IN YAHWEH'S TEMPLE DURING THE 42 MONTHS LEADING UP TO THE REAL MESSIAH'S ARRIVAL-2 THESS. 2: 3, 4)." The Islamic Dome of the Rock does not have to be removed or blown up for a third Jewish Temple to be built! Archaeological evidence presented by Dr. Asher Kaufman and the Texan House of Yahweh proves that the past two others were constructed in alignment with the Eastern-Golden Gate facing in the direction of the Mount of Olives inside the vacant lot NORTH from the Muslim worship area, WHERE THE OUTER COURT OF THE GENTILES WAS SITUATED PREVIOUSLY IN THE DAYS OF SOLOMON AND HEROD! The prophet Ezekiel saw in a vision that a PUBLIC STRUCTURE (MUSLIM MOSQUE) LOCATED SOUTHWARD ON THE TEMPLE MOUNT WILL BE SEPARATED FROM THE FUTURE TEMPLE BY A DIVIDING WALL. NEVER HAS THERE BEEN ERECTED SUCH A "FOREIGN" EDIFICE ON THE HOLY SITE UNTIL THE MUSLIM (ARAB/ISHMAELITE AND EDOMITE OTTOMAN) ERA OF MIDDLE EASTERN DOMINANCE. Ezek. 40: 2, 5-"In the visions of God brought He me into the land of Israel (Jewish state), and SET ME UPON A GREATLY EXALTED MOUNTAIN (Temple Mount), by which was as the FRAME ("Strong's Concordance", word 4011, 'mibneh', from #1129/'banah', translated as 'structure, building') OF A CITY (#5892, 'place guarded by waking or a watch', DESCRIBING WHAT IS BEING DONE BY THE MUEZZIN AND PALESTINIAN WAKF) ON THE SOUTH (outer court of the Gentiles)...And BEHOLD A WALL ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE HOUSE (TEMPLE-BETH YAHWEH) ROUND ABOUT, and in the man's hand a measuring reed of six cubits long by the cubit and an hand breadth: so he measured the breadth of the building (Temple), one reed; and the height, one reed." Rev. 11: 1, 2-"And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the TEMPLE OF GOD, and the altar, and them that worship therein. BUT THE COURT WITHOUT THE TEMPLE (SOUTHERN SECTION OF MOUNT WHERE THE DOME OF THE ROCK STANDS) LEAVE OUT, AND MEASURE IT NOT; FOR IT IS GIVEN UNTO THE GENTILES (MUSLIMS!): AND THE HOLY CITY (JERUSALEM, AL-QUDS) SHALL THEY TREAD UNDER FOOT FORTY AND TWO MONTHS (WHAT'LL REMAIN OF ANTI-MESSIAH'S 7-YEAR SATANIC "STINT")." ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
From: "Arrano Beltza" Subject: [losttribes] Nefilims and Nimrodites
QUESTION: "If the intent of the flood was to destroy the Nephilim, then why would they have been led to slay one another. When do you believe this mutual slaughter happened? Before the flood and if it did, then why the need for a flood? If after the flood, then this mutual slaughter would not have been necessary for only Noah and his family survived." ANSWER: In Gen. 6: 4, we are informed that the sons of God/Elohim had children before and IN THE AFTERMATH of the Flood-"THERE WERE GIANTS IN THE EARTH IN THOSE DAYS; AND ALSO AFTER THAT, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown." It was expected for men and women to marry and have children (Gen. 1: 22, 28; 8: 17; 9: 1, 7). So why would it be important for "sons of God" to have been mentioned unless they weren't human but angelic? Millions of Giants were drowned but the lustful angels were allowed by Yahweh (I don't quite understand why) to bring forth more when the families of Noah began to multiply again. With the descendants of Nimrod, the Nefilim organized and led expeditions to the New World (Peru, Mexico, and North America), South Asia (Aratta, Harappa, Mohenjo-Daro), the Maldives, Indonesia, Micronesia (Nan Madol), and Polynesia (Easter Island). Right around the Bronze Age's ending (start the Age of Iron), the Nefilim-Giants went to war among themselves. The few who survived were killed off by the Egypto-Canaanite colonists of the Americas, Mesopotamian kings (Gen. 14: 5), Israelites, Tuatha de Danann (Dan/Dannanni) in Ireland (where they were called Fomorians). Here's are excerpts: "The proselytizers Quetzalcoatl and the sons of the Sun (Nimrodites) were remembered to have dressed in white tunics (beautified with red crosses) that touched the ground...The wandering Meso-American priesthood was the Caucasian component of Olmecan society. Their earliest, stately portrayals in Veracruz, La Venta, and Chichen Itza have them with goatees, high-bridged noses, floppy caps, and upturned elfin shoes. They then show up with hulking Negroids (Anakim) on Monte Alban's stelae (imaginatively coined Danzantes, 'Dancers') as brutalized, castrated corpses. Others of their same groups were similarly sculpted at Chavin de Huantar, Peru. The megalithic theocracies of Mexico and Andean Tiahuanaco depended socio-economically on slavery for ambitious construction projects. Enduring no more, tyrannized tribes broke free from bondage and unmercifully massacred their formerly beneficent taskmasters. Sequential to the climactic Clash of the Titans, the empires of the Old and New Worlds eroded into barbarity and ignorance, memories of them becoming the basis of legends everywhere. Descending Winged Gods (Holy Angels) and ironhanded Giants can be made out battling each other on Mochica pottery of northern Peru, hauntingly comparative with the storyline in the Book of Enoch. Submissive Polynesians of Easter Island amicably co-existed with Long Ear overlords for two hundred years until disastrous inter-tribal feuds erupted and the latter were cast onto pyres set ablaze along the Poike trench...Ramtha, the demonic entity perceived by many New Agers to be an omniscient spirit guide, has given discourses using his medium, J.Z. Knight, concerning the Nefilim and their co-rulers who have remained until our time, the Nimrodite Merovingians. He calls them "slave drivers" and "evolved tyrants", who "helped to create religion here...they have endeavored to build up the human condition, but only good enough to serve them." Merovingians who direct the Priory of Zion, like Grand Master/Nautonnier Pierre de St. Clair and Archduke Otto von Habsburg, spare no efforts in achieving the aims of the ageless Satanic Plan...Ramtha commented: "If you really knew the extent these entities have played in religion, some of you who are tenderhearted would literally find the information fatal." Referring to their final stand as the "last waltz", he continues on saying that "they have a way of keeping the myth alive, and they have a way of keeping superstitious people ignorant...they have had their pawns in high places, and they continue to do so this very day. Their agreement runs out with the last Pope." Baigent, Leigh, and Lincoln, authors of Holy Blood, Holy Grail, provided an expose on the 19th century conspiracy of the Priory of Zion, at that time taking the name of Hieron du Val d'Or, to reunify Europe as a Hermetic, Masonic theocracy guided by the Habsburgs and Papal Rome...Magnificent ruins and structures of a bygone era of master astronomers and architects are found in Giza, Egypt, Angkor Wat, Micronesia, and Easter Island. The three pyramids of Egypt match the alignment of the three stars seen in Orion's Belt. The way they are oriented dates back to 10,500 BC. Under the direction of an Aryan priesthood, the Khmers had Angkor Wat laid out to appear as the constellation Draco the Dragon as it was in the Cambodian sky during 10,500 BC. This was the period before the Great Flood in which the Giants and their angelic fathers ruled the earth, the so-called First Time, 'Zep Tepi' of the Egyptian legends. The Greeks remembered this worldwide empire as Atlantis, which they said was divided into 10 kingdoms inhabited by Giants (sons of Atlas, the Atlantes). It's enlightening to know that the Habsburgs, the Priory of Zion, and Club of Rome are planning to construct the earth during the New World Order into 10 geographic regions. Francis Bacon, a past member of the Priory of Zion, referred to this future utopia as the New Atlantis, the title of his book that describes and tells of this occultic plan. The goal of Satan has been to re-establish the former glory of the Giants. Yahshua HaMashiach said that the world at his coming will be like the one of the days of Noah...Precession is an almost undetectable changing of the star fields over long periods of time caused by a slight wobble in the earth's rotation. The "Lost Civilization" (Biblical Giants, Greek Atlanteans) had knowledge of this slow movement of the stars which appear to make a complete revolution every 26,000 years. For the cycle to change by just 1 degree, it takes 72 years. Angkor Wat and Giza, site of the three pyramids, are separated from one another across the globe by exactly 72 degrees of longitude. In Angkor Wat, precession is represented by the number 54 which is three quarters of a degree of precession. The Micronesian island of Pohnpei in the Pacific Ocean is 54 degrees east of Angkor Wat. Easter Island, called the "Navel of the Earth", lies 144 degrees east of Angkor Wat and 144 degrees west of Giza. 144 degrees is 2 degrees of precession. The Giants and the human descendants of Nimrod learned from the Heavenly Watchers (second group of fallen angels) how to keep track of time by studying the constellations. Giza, Angkor Wat, Micronesia, and Easter Island (Polynesia) constituted a network of monuments used to map and survey the earth...Under the tutelage of the Nefilim, Nimrod became the first Mason, Brother of the Craft, a tradition also later found with Ilus as indicated beforehand, constructing walled villages and massive fortifications to keep out predatory animals and to fend against enemies. The Tower of Babel (Sumerian ziggurat), his Hermetic project ("As Above, So Below") which greatly angered the Elohim, was an earthly model of the Holy Mountain situated true north beyond Orion. The Hindu Mount Meru (marad), Greek Olympus, and Altaic Shamballah are other examples. Masonry's G.A.O.U. (Grand Architect of the Universe, Daniel's Ala-Mahozim/El-Meuzzim) was prefigured by Nimrod. Sacred architectural skills and the understanding of ley lines for the achievement of precise geodetic alignments were bequeathed unto Nimrod, safeguarded by his Merovingian descendants and Templar Knights. The awe-inspiring Parisian Gothic cathedrals and Razes of the Languedoc, the former being terrestrial representations of Virgo and the latter region embodying pentagonal geometry, are resultant of this gnosis. The Merovingian Bera VI was a respected architect in King Athelstan's England whose family is believed by some researchers to have possibly collaborated with the institution of a combined speculative and operative Freemasonry." ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com This list provided by SANJ sponsors: http://www.nazarene.net SANJ is a non-profit organization
From: "Arrano Beltza" Subject: [losttribes] Re: corrected: Khazar "Jews"-Bolshevik Red Revolutionaries
I haven't proofread my recent E-Mails and so they're sloppy and unprofessional. Below is the corrected version of the last one. Evidence keeps being made available that proves the Khazar-Judaeo-Slavic miscegenation of Crimean Karaites, Russian and Ashkenazi Jews (see http://www.khazaria.com/khazar-diaspora.html, "Thirteenth Tribe" by Arthur Koestler and Kevin Alan Brook's "Jews of Khazaria" are important references). Not too many people on these forums are aware that the Khazars were a Turkic people (not Celts or Germanic Israelites) and some of them (Ak-Khazars/Akatzirs) had reddish hair like Edom/Esau (Gen. 25: 25). Surprising Carolingian Europe and the Muslims, they converted to Judaism, an "outcast religion". At the time that Genghis Khan caused their commercial empire to disintegrate, a westward migration of Khazars was initiated to Poland, Lithuania, and across Eurasia-Eastern Europe. It can be matter-of-factly said that the Sefardim/Marranos and Western Jews (Franco-Rhenish and Ladino) are lineally the "purest" offspring of Judah. I insist on the Turks being Edomite and there are various prophetic passages that can support this assumption. It won't be completely touched upon in this E-Mail. Winston Churchill, U.S. Senate investigative records, and newspaper reports covering the Bolshevik Revolution revealed the disproportionate Yiddish and Russian Jewish (Khazar) background of the leading revolutionaries (70 per cent), like Ukrainian Leon Trotsky (Lev Davidovich Bronstein, second in command after V.I. Lenin) and his followers who came from the East Side of New York City (ethnically German-Jewish) and used Russian pseudonyms (Obad. verse 6, the "hidden things" of Edom/Esau that were "searched out"). Lenin's mother was rumored to be partly a Jewess and his paternal Ulyanov grandfather had Kalmuck-Mongolian and Kazan Tatar (Turkic) blood. Obadiah prophesied of the numerically small, despised Bolsheviks (verse 2) triumphing (having their nest in the stars, reaching the heights of political success and dominance) and accurately described how brutal Stalinists subsequently betrayed them after the death of Lenin. Obad. verses 7-9-"All the men of thy confederacy have brought thee even to the border: the men that were at peace with thee have deceived thee, and prevailed against thee; they that eat thy bread have laid a wound under thee (fellow party members whom the Edomites/Khazar radicals trusted in were going to mislead and decimate them maliciously ): there is none understanding in him. Shall I not in that day, saith Yahweh, even destroy the wise men out of Edom, and understanding out of the mount of Esau? And thy mighty men, O Teman, shall be dismayed, to the end that every one of the mount of Esau may be cut off by slaughter." Bolshevism was a collectivist program that INTELLECTUALS, the "WISE MEN" of TEMAN (Jer. 49: 7; Obad., verses 8 and 9), misusing their potentials put into violent action. Russia's TAMAN-Tamatarkha is remembered as having been a Khazar stronghold. Edom was slaughtered alright when the wolfish bureaucracy of the power-mad and paranoid Joseph Stalin had his comrades, the prominent Old Bolsheviki-"Trotskyites" (Yiddish Ashkenazim), killed or incarcerated during the Great Purge. The exiled Trotsky was gunned down by the dictator's secret police (GPU) in Mexico. The RED Army was founded by commissar Trotsky and 'KRASNAYA' ('RED') was the color the Bolsheviks selected to represent the rise of the proletariat and Socialist-Communist World Revolution. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com This list provided by SANJ sponsors: http://www.nazarene.net SANJ is a non-profit organization

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From: yair davidi Subject: [losttribes] [origin of nations] Ashkenazim-Khazars?
The Khazars were a military elite numbering (according to Russian estimates) less than 50,000. Their armies were composed mainly of muslim mercenaries. The Khazars were descended from Israelite tribes as I have proven in my book "The Tribes." The Jews recognized them as descended from the Lost Ten Tribes. They were related to the Picts of Scotland, to the Anglo-Saxons, and Scandinavians. In the Khazar kingdom were numerous Jews who had fled there from the Middle East and elsewhere due to presecutions. These Jews appear to have outnumbered the KHazars themselves. > >By the 17th century, the center of the Eastern European Jewish population >had shifted from Russia to the Polish-Lithuanian Kingdom. Since the Jewish >population of Poland at that time has been estimated by modern historians at >500,000, it is evident at face value that they must have been of Khazar >origin, unless another source for 500,000 Jewish souls can be found (and it >can't). > >Koestler gives three reasons for the Khazar migration to Poland. The first >two we have already mentioned: Viking and Mongol invasions of Russia. The >third was economic incentives from Poland. > >In the late Middle Ages, the Polish kingdom was culturally and economically >underdeveloped. Hence immigrants-Germans from the west, Armenians and Khazar >Jews from the east-were given every possible encouragement for their >enterprises, including Royal Charters granting them special privileges, if >they would only move to Poland. > >During the reign of Boleslav the Pious in 1264 AD, Jews in Poland were given >just such a special Charter. It was confirmed by Casimir the Great in 1334. >Under the rule of King Stephen Bathory (1575-86), Jews were granted a >Parliament of their own, which met twice a year and had the power to levy >taxes. Thus, the Khazar Jews, far from being destroyed by the devastating >invasions of their Russian homeland, had instead entered into a new and >prosperous chapter in their history-in Poland. > >It was during this period that the Jews developed a new language: Yiddish. >Yiddish sounds like German, but that's not because the Polish Jews came from >Germany. It's because German Christians came from Germany, actively >recruited by the King of Poland to immigrate to Poland, bringing their >relatively advanced culture with them. Yiddish has componenets from southern and eastern France etc, indicating that it originated with Jews who migrated from those areas to Germany then continued eastward. > >And, immigrate they did-in large numbers, having been given tremendous >incentives to do so. Most of the important business transactions in Poland >during this time were conducted by German Christians or Khazar Jews, and >everyone who wanted to prosper had to have some ability to understand >German, Hebrew, and Slavic. These were the key elements which went into the >formation of the Yiddish language; truly a language of expedience during >that period. > > Polish Jews-Where Did They Come From? > >As pointed out by Koestler, the total world Jewish population during the >Middle Ages was only about 1 million. This means that Khazars accounted for >at least half, and perhaps most of the world's Jews at that time. To try to >prove that Polish Jewry was derived from anything other than Khazar Jewry >would therefore be, at best, difficult. > >Ashkenazi Jewish children are taught that their Eastern European ancestors >originally migrated from the West. Anti-Semitism in the West is the reason >given for these theoretical migrations, most of which are assumed to have >taken place during the virulently anti-Semitic years of the Crusades and the >Black Death (approximately 1100-1300 AD). > >For those readers who are aware of the expulsion of hundreds of thousands of >Jews from Spain and Portugal during the reign of Ferdinand and Isabella in >1492, it is important to point out that this had nothing whatsoever to do >with Poland. You see, the Spanish and Portuguese Jews were "Sephardic", and >even the Ashkenazis themselves do not believe that they are descendants of >the Sephardics. Sephardic and Ashkenazi Jews look different, speak >differently, and have different customs. Besides, the alleged migrations of >Jews to Poland, according to the legends taught to Ashkenazi Jewish school >children, took place in the Middle Ages, centuries before the Spanish >Inquisition. > >Yet it remains the prevalent view among modern Ashkenazi historians, in the >face of evidence to the contrary, that Polish Jews came from the West. Where >could they have come from? England? France? Germany? > >It certainly wasn't England. The medieval Jewish population of England was a >grand total of 2,500 souls, and even though they were forcibly expelled in >the year 1290 AD, the hypothetical migration of that entire population to >Poland would hardly constitute a "drop in the bucket" in our search for the >origin of 500,000 Jewish souls. > >How about France? It's true that there was an expulsion of Jews from France >also. This occurred under the reign of Philippe IV (Philippe "le Bel"). >Philippe is perhaps most famous for ordering the arrest of the Templars on >Friday the Thirteenth, October 1307 (which I presume was history's first >occulticly-significant "Friday the Thirteenth"). This same Philippe, a year >earlier, had expelled all the Jews from France. Did they go to Poland? Not >according to Koestler, who states that they emigrated to "regions of France >outside the King's domain: Provence, Burgundy, Aquitaine, and a few other >feudal fiefs". There are apparently no historical records which suggest that >any French Jews migrated even as far as Germany, and certainly not across >Germany to Poland. > >As for Germany itself, a country believed by Ashkenazi historians to have >been a wellspring of Jewish immigration to Poland, the actual records seem >to indicate that the Jews were concentrated in only a few cities: Mayence, >Spires, and Worms initially, and later on (after 906) in Tr�ves, Metz, >Strasbourg, Cologne-all of them situated in a narrow strip in Alsace and >along the Rhine valley. > >Most of these were killed in the virulently anti-Semitic aftermath of the >First Crusade, including hundreds who committed mass suicide to avoid forced >conversion to Christianity. From the death records, Koestler estimates the >total Jewish population to have been no more than a thousand per city, most >of whom perished. Once again, there are no historical records which indicate >that any Jews ever moved to Poland. > >The Black Death, which killed over half of Europe's population, was also a >"field day" for anti-Semites. There were more pogroms, more murders, and >more mass suicides. According to Koestler, however, the only recorded case >of emigration in the Black Death period was when "Jews from Spires took >refuge from persecution in Heidelberg-about ten miles away". > >In summary, there were, at the dawn of the modern era, 500,000 Polish Jews >of the Ashkenazi variety who seem to have popped up from out of nowhere. >Unless, that is, one concedes that the 500,000 [Turko-]Khazar "Jews", who, >after all, lived right next door in Russia, simply moved a few miles West >into Poland. It is not logical that Jews in Germany etc would have let themselves be wiped out and not migrate eastward where they could find refuge and even (at that time) a welcoming response. Jewish tradition also speaks of such a movement. The 2nd edition of "The Tribes" is now available. This work contains information of great interest that you need to know. By purchasing the book you will also be assisting us to further this message. "The Tribes" costs $30 or its equivalent in other currency. The price includes postage by airmail. It may be ordered with a check drawn on your local bank and sent to: Yair Davidy POB 595 Jerusalem 91004 Israel This list provided by SANJ sponsors: http://www.nazarene.net SANJ is a non-profit organization
From: yair davidi Subject: [losttribes] Re: Khazar "Jews"-Bolshevik Red Revolutionaries
Subject: Re: Khazar "Jews"-Bolshevik Red Revolutionaries > > > >>Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 18:46:39 +0200 > >>To: [email protected] > >>From: yair davidi > >>Subject: Re: [losttribes] Khazar "Jews"-Bolshevik Red Revolutionaries > >>In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> > >> > >> > >>Arranzo Belts? has revealed himself as another Nazi-type jew-hating > Identity person./The kind that give aLL Identity people a bad name. > >>The Spanish in Spain and most of the Latin Americans were pro-Nazi and > Arranzo is playing true to type. > >> > >>What does he say? The Jewsare not reALLY jEWS BUT the Spanish and > Portuguese and apparently also the Germans are. > >>That aliens (Arranzo claims) from outer space are in league with the > devil are mating with human beings to produce > >>cohorts of adherents against Arranzo himself and his Spanish-Portuguese > German jew-hating friends. > >> > >>At 05:24 PM 7/17/00 PDT, Arranzo wrote: > >>>Evidence keeps being made available that proves the strongly Khazar > ancestry > >>>of Crimean Karaites, Russian and Ashkenazi Jews (see > >>>http://www.khazaria.com/khazar-diaspora.html, "Thirteenth Tribe" by Arthur > >>>Koestler and Kevin Alan Brook's "Jews of Khazaria" are imporant > references). > >> > >>Koestler and Brook had similar agendas. Koestler wanted to absolve the > Jews of the death of Jesus > >>and thus remove what he considered to be the cause of anti-semitism. > >>Brook is active on an e-mail list I once took an interest in. Brook has > an ideaology that says > >>that Judaism should be liberal, non-Biblical, and accept everybody. In > other words, it should become, he implies, a kind of christinaity without > Jesus. His idea of the Khazars is made by him to conform with his > pre-conceived wishes. > >> > >> > >>I wrote to Brook and received an insulting obnoxious reply. Nevertheless > from the little I have seen of his book I found it quite interesting. he > has a chapter on Jewish sources recognizing that in Jewish eyes at the time > many (probably most) considered the Khazars to have been part of the Lost > Ten Tribes. Brook in effect contains evidence that copnmtradicts his own > claims. > >> > >>I have also written of some of the evidence concernng the Israelite > origin of the Khazars in THe Tribes and in articles in Tribesman. > >>I have additional eveidence that I hope to write up quite soon. Even so > the evidence > >>that I have already produced should be more than sufficient for any > fair-minded person. > >> > >>What is more: whatever the claims are, there is still NO convincing > evidence that the Khazars (whether of Israelite origin or not) really did > contribute significantly to the numbers of Jewish population. The evidence > (until now) all seems to be that they did not. > >> > >>>Not too many people on these forums are aware that the Khazars were a > Turkic > >>>people (not Celts or Germanic Israelites) > >>The khazars were related to the Picts of SDcotland, to the > Scandinasvians, and to the Anglo-Saxons. Read "The Tribes". > >>and that some of them > >>>(Ak-Khazars/Akatzirs) had reddish hair like Edom/Esau (Gen. 25: 25). > >> > >>a SECTION OF THEM HAD RED HAIR AND BLUE EYES. So do some of the Irish, > Norwegians, Scottish, and others. > >> > >>Edom was prominent amongst the German upper classes and also present in > the Spanish nobility. > >>It is interesting that Arranzo has a soft spot for the Spanish and Germans. > >>This is consistent. > >> > >> > >> > >>>Surprising Carolingian Europe and the Muslims, they converted to > Judaism, an > >>>"outcast religion". At the time that Genghis Khan caused their commercial > >>>empire to disintegrate, a westward migration of Khazars was initiated to > >>>Poland, Lithuania, and across Eurasia-Eastern Europe. It can be > confidently > >>>said that the Sefardim/Marranos and Western Jews (Franco-Rhenish and > Ladino) > >>>are lineally the "purest" offspring of Judah. I insist on the Turks being > >>>Edomite > >> > >>Some of the Turks may come from Edom, but most belong to Togarma (son of > Gomer of Japhet) and other groups > >>possibly including Hittites. > >> > >> > >> > >> and there are various prophetic passages that can support this > >>>assumption. It won't be completely touched upon in this E-Mail. Winston > >>>Churchill, U.S. Senate investigative records, and newspaper reports > covering > >>>the Bolshevik Revolution revealed the disproportionate Yiddish and Russian > >>>Jewish (Khazar) background of the leading revolutionaries (70 per cent), > >> > >>Most Jews supported Kerensky (as Kerensky himself testified). Kerensky > was a moderate > >>pro-western liberal who for a short period headed Russia after the > Revolution. > >> > >>Let's get things clear: > >>1. Russia was ruled by a backward regime that oppressed the Russian people > >>and persecuted the Jews. The Russian upper-classes had originally > included many Israelites of Scandinavian and other origin.Later this group > was replaced by Slavs and others called "boyars" > >>from Bavaria and other places. The common people from Japhet, Gog and > Magog, Canaan, and Edom. They > >>include individuals who are very gifted people but on the whole they are > also extremely backward > >>2.There was a revolution and eventually Kerensky was appointed head of > governement but this > >>government was displaced by the Communists headed by Lenin. > >> > >>3. The Jews had been conscriped from the age of 8 to thirty plus into the > Russian army. There they had been forced to abandon Judaism. Upon release > many of them remained Jewish in sentiment but they > >>had been cut off from Jewish tradition. From these people emerged many > revolutionaries who were usualkly urbanized and naturally > >>more intelligent and dedicated than most Russians. > >>Most Jews were therefore against the tyrannical regime but democratic and > middle class in sentiment. > >>A minority supported the Communists and because they were literate and > had initiative they for a short period became prominent amongst the > leadership. This Communist leadership was nevertheless usually anti-Jewish > >>and persecuted the Jewish religion. > >> > >>Arranzo in effect denies the Bible, denies genetics, and denies history. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>like Ukrainian Leon Trotsky (Lev Davidovich Bronstein, second in command > >>>after V.I. Lenin) and his followers who came from the East Side of New > York > >>>City (ethnically German-Jewish) and used Russian pseudonyms (Obad. verse > 6, > >>>the "hidden things" of Edom/Esau that were "searched out"). Lenin's mother > >> > >>Lenin had a German grandfather. He was sent to Russia (from exile in > Switzerland) in a German military train with a chest full of German gold. > His purpose was to overthrow the government > >>and take Russia out of the war with Germany. THis is what he did. > >> > >>Arranzo must know this but he does not mention it. > >> > >> > >> > >>>was rumored to be partly a Jewess and his paternal Ulyanov grandfather had > >>>Kalmuck-Mongolian and Kazan Tatar (Turkic) blood. Obadiah prophesied of > the > >>>numerically small, despised Bolsheviks (verse 2) triumphing (having their > >>>nest in the stars, reaching the heights of political success and > dominance) > >>>and accurately described how Stalinists subsequently brutally betrayed > them > >>>after Lenin's death. > >>> > >>>Obad. verses 7-9-"All the men of thy confederacy have brought thee even to > >>>the border: the men that were at peace with thee have deceived thee, and > >>>prevailed against thee; they that eat thy bread have laid a wound under > thee > >>>(fellow party members whom the Edomites/Khazar radicals trusted in were > >>>going to be mislead and decimate them maliciously ): there is none > >>>understanding in him. Shall I not in that day, saith Yahweh, even destroy > >>>the wise men out of Edom, and understanding out of the mount of Esau? And > >>>thy mighty men, O Teman, shall be dismayed, to the end that every one of > the > >>>mount of Esau may be cut off by slaughter." > >>> > >>>Bolshevism was a collectivist philosophy that INTELLECTUALS, the "WISE > MEN" > >>>of TEMAN (Jer. 49: 7; Obad., verses 8 and 9), > >> > >>Arranzo is also a "wiseman" in his own eyes. > >> > >> misusing their potentials put > >>>into violent action. Russia's TAMAN-Tamatarkha is remembered as having > been > >>>a Khazar stronghold. Edom was slaughtered alright when the wolfish > >>>bureaucracy of the power-mad and paranoid Joseph Stalin had his comrades, > >>>the prominent Old Bolsheviks-"Trotskyites" (Yiddish Ashkenazim), killed or > >>>encarcerated during the Great Purge. The exiled Trotsky was gunned down by > >>>the dictator's secret police (GPU) in Mexico. The RED Army was founded by > >>>commissar Trotsky and 'KRASNAYA' ('RED') was the color the Bolsheviks > >>>selected to represent the rise of the proletariat and Socialist-Communist > >>>World Revolution. > >>>________________________________________________________________________ > >>> > >> > >> > >>This was once a list that sometimes seemed serious. It has now turned > into a bastion of > >>and "Arranzo" types. > The 2nd edition of "The Tribes" is now available. > This work contains information of great interest > that you need to know. > By purchasing the book you will also be assisting > us to further this message. > "The Tribes" costs $30 or its equivalent in other currency. > The price includes postage by airmail. It may be ordered with > a check drawn on your local bank and sent to: > Yair Davidy > POB 595 > Jerusalem 91004 > Israel > This list provided by SANJ sponsors: http://www.nazarene.net > SANJ is a non-profit organization
Sources are abundant but it must be clarified that there are Judahite and Turko-Khazar Jews who deem it their predestined duty (through human and not divine effort) to "exalt themselves to establish the vision; but they shall fall" (Dan. 11: 14). World Jewry is not to be blamed for the sinister doings of radicals slithering in its law-abiding masses. Those should rightly be lashed at and tossed off onto the dung heap along with other "human waste" (Israelite or Gentile). Here are more quotes (Jewish too) that should widen eyes: Rabbi Lewis Browne, "How Odd of God", pp. 207-208-"And once the revolutionary spirit spreads to lands where we were more numerous, we did not merely die in the revolutions; we helped to start them. No agitators did more to bring on the Revolution of 1848 than those two Jews, Heinrich Heine and Ludwig Borne. No names are more illustrious in the history of early Socialism than those of two other Jews, Karl Marx and Ferdinand Lassalle. It was a Jew, Leon Trotsky, who led the Red Army which saved the Communist cause in Russia. It was a Jew, Karl Liebknecht, aided by a Jewess, Rosa Luxemburg, who led the Sparticist insurrection in Germany. It was a Jew, Bela Kun, who set up the short-lived Red regime in Hungary. It was a Jew, Kurt Eisner, who led the Socialist 'Putsch' in Bavaria. Throughout the past century every effort to overthrow privilege has engaged the support of the Jews. In every land who are known as the Children of Jacob have been the most devoted Jacobins." Heinrich Heine, a banker's son-"Money is the god of our time, and Rothschild is his prophet." "Jewish Encyclopaedia", Vol. 2, pg. 497-"It is a somewhat curious sequel to the attempt to set up a Catholic competitor to the Rothschilds that at the present time (1905) the latter are guardians of the papal treasure." The Saint-Simonians, occult religious millennialist forerunners of Communism, praising Baron de Rothschild in their periodical "Le Globe"-"There is no one today who better represents the triumph of equality and work in the nineteenth century than M. le Baron de Rothschild...Was this Jew born a millionaire? No, he was born poor, and if only you knew what genius, patience, and hard work were required to construct that European edifice called the House of Rothschild, you would admire it rather than insult it." Italian Socialist-Mason Giuseppe Mazzini, who stayed in contact with Scottish Rite Supreme Pontiff and admitted Luciferian Albert Pike-"[Lionel de] Rothschild (involved with the first Communist Internationale) could be King of France if he so desired." Karl Rothschild, son of Mayer Amschel, led Carbonarism (a.k.a. the Alta Vendita). The Masonic reference book "10,000 Famous Freemasons", Vol. 4, page 74, informs that two other of his brothers were involved with the Fraternity/Craft: James Mayer Rothschild (33rd Degree Scottish Rite) and the Londoner Nathan (member of the Lodge of Emulation, 1802). Solomon Meir Rothschild was said by Jewish Freemason Katz to have been initiated into Freemasonry on June 14, 1809. Max Rothschild visited Lodge No. 11 in Munich, Bavaria (Illuminati homebase). Additional Masonic Jews were Sir Moses Montefiore (Moira Lodge, 1812), Nathan Mayer Rothschild's brother-in-law, and Adolphe Cremieux (Alliance Israelite Universelle). Per Fritz Springmeier, "Jewish Encyclopaedia", Vol. 2, page 496, indicates other Jewish families "adopted the Rothschild plan". They were the "Lazards, Sterns, Speyers, and Seligmans. The Rothschild plan was to place family members in...five...European capitals to coordinate their activities. One of Germany's largest magazines is the "Stern" and Ernst Stern is second-in-command of the World Bank. The Jewish families [who] established the Frankfurt Judenloge (this was the one the Rothschilds belonged to) included the Adlers, Speyers, Reisses, Sichels, Ellisons, Hanaus, Geisenheimers, and Goldschmidts. Isaac Hildesheim, a Jew who changed his name to Justus Hiller, is credited as being the founder of the lodge. Michael Hess, principal of the Reformed Jewish school Philanthropin was an important figure...too, as was Dr. Ludwig Baruch (later Borne) who joined in 1808. Most of these Frankfurt Jewish Freemasons engaged in commerce [and]...from 1817-1842 were the leaders of the Frankfurt Jewish community. A Gentile Mason in Frankfurt, Johann Christian Ehrmann, began warning the German people that [Frankfurt's] Jewish Masons wanted a world republic based on humanism. In 1816 he came out with a warning pamphlet "Das Judenthum in der Maurerey" ("Jews in Masonry")." Meyer Karl Rothschild (1820-1886), in a letter for Gerson von Bleichroder-"As for the anti-Semitic feelings, the Jews themselves are to blame, and the present agitation must be ascribed to their arrogance, vanity and unspeakable insolence." Lionel Walter Rothschild (1868-1937), writing to the same Bleichroder, 1890-"The Russian Tsar's laws are so hard and mean that they could make many Jews (Khazar Ashkenazim) become violent nihilists (Edom freeing himself from Jacob's yoke)." David Francis, American Ambassador to Russia at the time of the Bolshevik Revolution; Francis, D. R., 1921. "Russia from the American Embassy". New York: C. Scribner's & Sons, pg. 214-"The Bolshevik leaders here, most of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are trying to start a worldwide social revolution." Randolph Churchill (Winston's father); "Associated Press", Feb. 8, 1956-"The tense Middle East situation could explode into armed conflict at any moment. But I don't think civilization is going to stumble into the next war...World War III, if it comes, will be coldly calculated and planned rather than accidental." Kadmi Cohen, "Nomades: Essai Sur L'Ame Juive", 1929, page 80-"As far as the Jews are concerned, their role in world socialism is so important that one cannot pass quietly over it. Does it not suffice to recall the names of the great Jewish revolutionaries of the 19th and 20th centuries, such as Karl Marx, [Ferdinand] Lasalle, Kurt Eisner, Bela Kun, Trotsky and Leon Blum, so that in this manner it is clear who are the theoreticians of modern Socialism?" Theodor Herzl, in "Der Judenstaat", pg. 91, 1946 edition-"Where we sink we become revolutionary proletariat, the subordinate officers of the revolutionary party: when we rise, there rises also our terrible power of the purse (Rothschild money no doubt)." Herzl, as quoted by a Rothschild biographer-"[The Rothschilds are...] the most efficient force our people have owned since the Diaspora." Jewish newspaper "Haijut", Warsaw, August 3, 1928-"At the head of the Russian revolutionaries marched the pupils of the Rabbinic school of Lidia. Jewry triumphed over fire and sword, with our brother Marx, who had the mandate for the fulfilment of all that our prophets have commanded, and who worked out the suitable plan for the demands of the proletariat." Alfred Nossig, "Integrales Judentum", pg. 79-"The modern Socialist movements are for the great majority a work of the Jews; the Jews gave it the stamp of their understanding; it was also Jews who had a striking share in leadership of the first Socialist republics. In spite of this, the enormous majority of Jewish Socialist leaders were divorced from the Mosaic Law; for in unconscious manner there took effect within them the racial principle of the Mosaic Law, and the race of the old apostolic peoples lived in their brain and in their social character. Present world socialism forms the first State in fulfilment of the Mosaic Law, the beginning of realization of the future World State, which was announced by the prophets." "J�disches Lexikon", Berlin 1928, pp. 1577-78-"[Moses Hess was a] Communist Rabbi...[and] father of modern Socialism." Moses Hess, in his "Rome and Jerusalem"-"[The Jews are among the] primary races of mankind...[Christianity is] a religion of death...[and Judaism will become the] spiritual guide of humankind." Moses Hess, "Selected Works", Cologne 1962-"He [Friedrich Engels] parted from me as an over-zealous Communist. This is how I produce ravages..." In 1847, Marx and Engels became members of the League of Just Men, an international subversive organization founded by Jewish Socialists. Later followed the Communist League, the International Working Men's Association and the First International, which Hess also was involved in. According to Nesta Webster, Karl Marx organized the "League of the Just" (Bund der Gerechten), a secret Communist society, in Paris (1835). Fritz Springmeier pointed out that Gumpel Oppenheim (or Oppenheimer, famous Jewish family close to the Rothschilds) was in the inner circle of the League. His relative Heinrich Oppenheim masterminded the Communist revolution of 1848 in Germany. The Communist Party's official histories even accept the Bund as the predecessor of Communism. Karl Marx, "The Russian Loan"-"The late tzar Nicholas made Stieglitz Russian baron, as emperor Franz [Josef II] made old [Salomon] Rothschild Austrian baron, while Louis Napol�on made [Achille] Fould minister of Cabinet, with free entrance to the Tuileries for the female members of the family. Thus we notice that every tyrant is backed by a Jew, like there is a Jesuit behind every pope. The fact is that the oppressors impossibly could do as they pleased and wars wouldn't be allowed, if there wasn't an army of Jesuits who calmed the senses and a handful of Jews who plundered the pockets." Georg Friedrich Engels, in a private letter (1890) about Jewish friends-"[Karl] Marx was of purely Jewish origin; [the German Socialist Ferdinand] Lassalle was a Jew. Many of our best people are Jews. My friend, Victor Adler, is now paying in prison in Vienna for his devotion to the cause of the proletariat; Eduard Bernstein, the editor of the London "Sozialdemokrat"; Paul Singer, one of our best men the Reichstag-people of whose friendship I am proud, and all of them Jews!" "Communism, Revolution, and a Free Poland", speech by Karl Marx, Feb. 22, 1848-"The Jacobin [of the French Revolution] of 1793 has become the Communist of our day...Nobody would accuse the millions of citizens of Bern and New York of Communistic impulses [in 1848]...Communism denies the necessity of the existence of classes; it wants to abolish all classes, all class distinctions [among the masses, proletariat...] equal rights to all classes [and equal low salary for the majority]." Karl Marx, "Zur Judenfrage"; quoted in "Marx-Engels Werke" Berlin 1964; written Autumn 1843-"Money is the jealous god of Israel, in face of which no other god may exist. Money degrades all the gods of man-and turns them into commodities. Money is the universal self-established value of all things. It has, therefore, robbed the whole world-both the world of men and nature-of its specific value. Money is the estranged essence of man's work and man's existence, and this alien essence dominates him, and he worships it. The god of the Jews has become secularized and has become the god of the world. The bill of exchange is the real god of the Jew. His god is only an illusory bill of exchange." The fact that Lord (Nathan) Rothschild financed the Jewish Communist-Socialist Karl Marx was revealed by Marx's close associate, Mikhail Bakunin, in "Pel�mique contre les Juifs". Karl Marx, a letter to Bruno Bauer, 1844-"The Jew...and his money power...decide the destinies of Europe." Mr. Blumenthal article, in "Judisk Tidskrift", No. 57, Sweden (1929)-" Only recently our race has given the world a new prophet, but he has two faces and bears two names; on the one side his name is Rothschild, leader of all capitalists, and on the other Karl Marx, the apostle of those who want to destroy the other." "New Encyclopedia of Zionism and Israel", ed. Geoffrey Wigoder-"Hess contributed towards Marx's "Communist Manifesto", written in 1848, in particular the term 'religion is the opiate of the masses'. Following the unification of Italy, the rise of nationalism in that country and the emergence of German anti-Semitism, Hess returned to his Jewish roots. His booklet "Rome and Jerusalem; The Last National Question", written in 1862 is evidence of this change. However, his proposed Jewish State was to be Socialist in nature (Zionism is 'Socialistic'). Hess died in Paris although at his request was buried in the Jewish cemetery in Cologne. However, in 1961 his remains were transferred to Israel where they were buried in the Kinneret cemetery alongside other Socialist-Zionists such as Nahum Syrkin, Ber Borochov, and Berl Katznelson." "Judisk Tidskrift", No. 6, Aug.-Sept. 1929, written by Dr. Ehrenpreis, Chief Rabbi of Sweden-"I participated with [Theodor] Herzl in the first Zionist Congress which was held at Basle in 1897. Herzl was the most prominent figure at that first Jewish World Congress. He worked to achieve an object which had been fixed beforehand. Just as Isaiah foresaw, decades before the event occurred, the victorious power of Cyrus before anyone else, so did Herzl foresee twenty years, before we experienced them, the revolutions brought about by the Great War, and he prepared us for that which was going to happen. He foresaw the splitting up of Turkey, and he foresaw that England would obtain control over Palestine. 'We may expect important developments in the world.' These were the words spoken by Herzl twenty years before the Great War. He added that events would offer the Jewish people fresh opportunities." ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com This list provided by SANJ sponsors: http://www.nazarene.net SANJ is a non-profit organization
Hubner Soivilien Subject: Re: [losttribes] Is Arrano a Nazi?
Shalom all, Well, I can say AMEM! to this message. I will comment more on that later. Shalom, Hubner > Galatians 4:16-"Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you > the > truth?" > > It's sad that I would be called a "Nazi". Yair Davidi expects me and > every > other Israelite to convert to Rabbinic Judaism before returning to > the Holy > Land for the inauguration of the Messianic Kingdom. It won't happen. > Until > Messiah comes, we'll keep bickering and having our differences. How > can you > turn a blind eye to what really happened during the Bolshevik > Revolution? A > huge percentage of the Bolsheviki were Russian-Yiddish "Jews" > (Khazars). Did > not Yahweh foretell that Edom would grow restless and finally break > Jacob's > yoke (Czarist repression) from off his neck? The Romanovs were > mostly of > Varangian and West European ancestry. I have Sefardic/Marrano blood > running > thick through my veins. I love Judah, Israel, and the Goyim. I have > nothing > against you, Yair, personally or anybody else for that matter. If > necessary, > I can quote from JEWISH SOURCES which unbiasedly tell of the > "Jewish" > revolutionaries and apostate bankers and their tragic, deplorable > roles in > spawning Socialism-Communism. Let's be realistic, the most > influential or > notorious Communists were: Moses Hess, Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, > Rosa > Luxemburg, Kurt Eisner, Karl Liebknecht, Leon Blum, Bela Kun, Leon > Trotsky...must I continue, my brother? Anybody can check up on this > and come > to a conclusion that can't be missed: THERE WERE AND ARE ATHEISTIC, > APOSTATE > "JEWS"! Are YOU trying to conceal something yourself? Why is it that > > historical facts are denied and swept under the filthy rug? The > Khazars were > Turks, not Israelites. Even the Kagan Joseph said so. Your reasoning > is > based on fantastical guesses that Jews came up with in earlier > times. I go > by Bible prophecies and their fulfillments in history. I can crank > out the > proof and evidence at full speed. Explain this: Why is the Israeli > state > socialist in outlook? Should we kiss the Rothschilds' toes and bow > down to > them? Do you hate Yahshua of Nazareth that much? Why are there > horrible > curses placed upon Christians/Nozrim in the Talmud? Do you want me > to quote > them for all to see and read? Some of the Sages/Rabbis taught their > people > to HATE (and I can understand why to a certain extent) > non-religionists > around them. What would make that different from so-called > "anti-Semitism"? > You have an "agenda" of your own and I've got mine. You won't see me > running > to the pseudo-Messiah (Habsburg-Lorraine heir) with open arms and > puckered > lips. Forget that. > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com > > This list provided by SANJ sponsors: http://www.nazarene.net > SANJ is a non-profit organization > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. This list provided by SANJ sponsors: http://www.nazarene.net SANJ is a non-profit organization
[email protected] Subject: Re: [losttribes] Edomite Russians
I for one remain convinced that the Russians are primarily Edomites. I think the prophecies of Obadiah refer to Russia in the main, and specifically the prophecy of the fall of their "nest among the stars" refers to the existence of the Russian space station and its eventual demise. Going through Obadiah in my NIV, some verses are of particular interest: Verse 2: "See, I will make you small among the nations; you will be utterly despised. [What would a great nation loathe more than the prospect of being made small?] Verse 3: "You who live in the clefts of the rocks [or of Sela], and make your home on the heights, you who say to yourself, 'Who can bring me down to the ground?' [This is a picture of a nation that fortifies itself, makes itself invulnerable.] Verse 4: "Though you soar like the eagle and make your nest among the stars, from there I will bring you down," declares the LORD. [The Soviet Union was and Russia is a major air power and Russia is the possessor of the only permanent space station ever built.] Verse 7. "All your allies will force you to the border; your friends will deceive and overpower you." [This was at least partially fulfilled when the Soviet Union broke up and Russia was forced to its own borders by the other nations that were formerly members of the Soviet Union.] Verse 10. "Because of the violence against your brother Jacob, you [Esau] will be covered with shame..." [Russia has had a history of opposing the Israelites, both the house of Israel by opposing Britain and France in the 19th century and the United States in the 20th, and in its infamous pogroms of the Jews in Russia over the centuries, under Czar and commissar alike.] Yours, Rusts This list provided by SANJ sponsors: http://www.nazarene.net SANJ is a non-profit organization

"Bobby Rich" Subject: Re: [losttribes] Edomite Russians
Prophetic Edom is modern Iraq. Bible events with "Edom" been fulfilled since the Persian Gulf war and "Edom"(Iraq) is even now rebuilding their arsenal. They will remain a major player until Shiloh comes: Edom In Bible Prophecy Perhaps no nation has been more enigmatic in Bible prophecy than "Edom". We find "Edom" in the limelight during the future struggles(Psa 137:7, Ezek 25:12) crying for the blood of Jerusalem and selected for unique punishment by Messiah Yeshua as the Messianic Kingdom is established(Isa 34:5-17). There are "four horns" denoting four nations listed in Zechariah chapter one verse 18 which are to invade and defeat Judea. Years ago the spirit of YHVH gave me to understand these four included this mystery "Edom", and the War Scroll of the Dead Sea Scrolls confirms this very fact in the opening verses. The prophetic use of "Edom" demonstrates it is a viable power with established status as a modern nation. Certainly not the lower Jordan River valley as some might think. So what modern nation corresponds to this Biblical type or model named "Edom"? The names of certain nations such as Israel and Edom incorporated the bloodline name as the national name. In this case of "Edom" the use apparently represents both bloodline and type because "Edom" equates to the modern nation of IRAQ. The present day ruling class, including Saddam Hussain, are said to be descendants of the ancient Edomites. The validity of Iraq as the prophetic "Edom" may be noted by testing scripture as follows: (1). Iraq thought to take over two nations, Iran and Kuwait. This is found in Ezek 35:10. (2). Oil is their underground treasure. See Oba 1:6. (3). Heavily shielded concrete bunkers were their protection in the Persian Gulf war. Note Oba 1:3. (4). Iraq has an ancient hatred of Israel and Judah. See Ezek 35:5. (5). Iraq has recently been crushed but is rebuilding. See Mal 1:4. It will happen again. (6). The United States(Tyre) delivered up the Kurds and Shiites to Iraq(Edom) after the Gulf war. This can be read in Amos 1:9. (7). At least part of the ruling faction of Iraq are direct bloodline descendants of Edom(Esau). The reader might like to see the future role of this nation Iraq in Ezek 25 , 35, 36 and Psa 137, Oba 1 and Isa 24 & 34. "Edom" is also called also called Idumea or Bozrah(the city). Iraq(prophetic Edom and "king of the South") is rebuilding(Mal 1:3-5) as YHVH/Messiah knows. They will be an entity for the duration until Messiah sets apart singular punishment for them(Isa 34:5-17). And they are dirty with biological weapons intended for use against Judah(Ezek 5:2&12). Trouble is they may even be storing them in Iran or elsewhere. Even after Israel(western nations/beast) retaliates in vengeance for their participation against Judea(Ezek 25:12) Iraq will still be a factor until Messiah "bloodies" his garment in striking them and virtually extinguishing them forever. How important are the UN weapons inspection operations? Examine Ezek 5:2 and then verse 12 where we are informed one third shall die of pestilence. If one objects this is history of long ago this does not wash because verse 4 specifically states that after Judea is attacked "the fire will go out into all the House of Israel". There is no such historical precedence. This is the INITIAL attack of the dark days of the tribulations/day of the lord which is "the sign"(Luke 21:7) Messiah gives in Matt 24 & Luke 21:20 and is the horrible "abomination of desolation". When this happens the tribulations have begun and our redemption is nearer. So at this point(Judea strike) has Messiah come? Yes, but do not expect to see Him at this point(Matt 24:26) because we cannot. His coming calls for "endurance"(Mal 3:2a) whereas His appearing after the last trump calls for "standing"(Mal 3:2b) in the firstfruits/saints resurrection.(Rev 20:4 and 1 Cor 15). The "coming" is the Day of the Lord among other terms including the Great tribulations and reign of the beast. The crown/turban is removed from the beast to Messiah Yeshua(Shiloh) after the beast leads his forces to the final battle of the age building at Jerusalem-Har Megiddo(Ezek 21:18-27). Judah and Israel, even after the Northern tribes split and lost their own identity have been close despite conflicts among themselves. But this bond will somehow be broken(Zech 11:10 second staff "bonds/unity") temporarily probably by politicians but allowed by God(Isa 22:8-9) to allow the four Arab nations to invade the holy land. Jerusalem is the "heavy burden-stone of stumbling" which will be fought over until our Messiah Yeshua lifts his hand for the ordeal to end-then redemption for those sleeping and alive(the 144,000 plus ) in Messiah. Shalom in the Kingdom. Pray for peace in Jerusalem which is to pray for the Kingdom established. Bobby Rich [email protected] www.elijah99,com
yair davidi Subject: [losttribes] "ARE THE JEWS JEWISH?"
"ARE THE JEWS JEWISH?" Zechariah-8 no.2 There exist some so called "Identity" movements who do not really believe in "Identity" nor do they really believe in the Bible though they sometimes pretend to. These groups claim that the present-day Jews are not descended from Judah-but rather from Edomites or other people. They claim that the "true" descendants of Judah are the Germans! There are also Negro groups who say the same thing but in this case they state that the true Israelites are the black peoples! Both these groups are stupid but they do have some influence some times. Also otherwise quite well-meaning sensible people have sometimes gotten mixed up in them. In the case of the white "German"-oriented groups they have sometimes been a menace to us, misled otherwise good people, and also misled the public at large as to thinking that they represent "Identity Identity". In Proverbs it says: "Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like him. "Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own deceit" (Proverbs 26;4-5). In other words we do not have to reply to the claims of every misguided or deranged person. Nevertheless in some cases we should know enough to reply to them if necessary. Sometimes these people can push their opinion quite forcefully at an inopportune moment and it helps to have a ready answer. This chapter of Zechariah provides it! Zechariah says that the Jews of Judah prior to their final redemption will have endured a long history Of having been presecuted and treated with contempt. "AS YE WERE A CURSE AMONG THE HEATHEN, O HOUSE OF JUDAH, AND HOUSE OF ISRAEL" (Zechariah 8;13). That their religion will have been unique to them and that only at the latter days will it be acknowledged: ZECH 8:23] TEN MEN SHALL TAKE HOLD OUT OF ALL LANGUAGES OF THE NATIONS, EVEN SHALL TAKE HOLD OF THE SKIRT OF HIM THAT IS A JEW, SAYING, WE WILL GO WITH YOU: FOR WE HAVE HEARD THAT GOD IS WITH YOU. And that the days of mourning and fasting that they practised will become feastdays: ZECH 8:19] THE FAST OF THE FOURTH MONTH, - Tammuz. AND THE FAST OF THE FIFTH, - Av AND THE FAST OF THE SEVENTH, - Tishrei (Gedaliah) AND THE FAST OF THE TENTH, - Tebeth (Tevet). SHALL BE TO THE HOUSE OF JUDAH JOY AND GLADNESS, AND CHEERFUL FEASTS; THEREFORE LOVE THE TRUTH AND PEACE. Only the Jews were treated with contempt and persecuted throughout much of their history in exile. Only they kept the fast days listed by Zechariah. Only they kept the uniqueness of their belief which in the Last days will be acknowledged by everone. If someone does not want to belief in the Bible, or to deny Bible truth, that is their problem but let them come out and say so openly. Scripture itself provides the answer to every question, great or small, profound or foolish, that anybody Can ever come up with. The 2nd edition of "The Tribes" is now available. This work contains information of great interest that you need to know. By purchasing the book you will also be assisting us to further this message. "The Tribes" costs $30 or its equivalent in other currency. The price includes postage by airmail. It may be ordered with a check drawn on your local bank and sent to: Yair Davidy POB 595 Jerusalem 91004 Israel This list provided by SANJ sponsors: http://www.nazarene.net SANJ is a non-profit organization